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		<title>By: Sassy Solipsist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sassy Solipsist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 05:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How very well worded, word wielder. Indeed, it is a mystery to me as well how it escapes so many ppl...the full meanings &amp; implications, the ironies &amp; angles, twists &amp; turns, and layers upon layers...my my my...yes, indeedy, as ye stated...that THEY stated...the types they go after...or is that a direct Palahniuk quote? Well. No matter. They are no different, are they? Can&#039;t take it, but sure can dish it out, and how. It is all too easy when you hide behind masks, illusions, one another, fake names, stolen borrowed ips proxies MOB RULES sheep herd mentality fever rabid pitch drool school of blood thirsty swarming sharks master plan attack cool cold pre calculated organized btw it is HUGE and Growing all the time ignorant smart young older whatever tax bracket span underground guerilla warfare plan some in it for fun but not all still its a giant food chain a Lady Macbeth, if you will, all of them have blood stained hands in the end. We all do. What a shame. To think that so many would go along willingly w/ reputation and propperty ruining destruuctiion, tresspassing, breaking and entering, theft, surveillance, posting God knows what and who knows where, stealing info., infiltrating computers, phones, every intimate personal detail, plus harming the health of ppl, plus their pets, plus same for their family and some of their friends. Based on what? And no help from Police, bcoz they were in on it, too. Huh. Yep. So. And no...It ain&#039;t just the &quot; Scientologists&quot; or is that Aesopian speak for something or somebody else? THEY, the so-called ANONYMOUS must have some over lord influential types...I mean, would there have been a Manson Family w/ out Charles? Psycho that he is and was? You know? They, the sheep, what might have started out as The Fight Club, now Club Mayhem, Loose Cannon, full of Mindless Meathead Mongrells on Moronic Missions...must have some fucktard leaders to give them a clue...jeez. Is there any intelligent life anywhere any intelligent lifeform in the universe...and if so...plz...just hurry and beam me up now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How very well worded, word wielder. Indeed, it is a mystery to me as well how it escapes so many ppl&#8230;the full meanings &amp; implications, the ironies &amp; angles, twists &amp; turns, and layers upon layers&#8230;my my my&#8230;yes, indeedy, as ye stated&#8230;that THEY stated&#8230;the types they go after&#8230;or is that a direct Palahniuk quote? Well. No matter. They are no different, are they? Can&#8217;t take it, but sure can dish it out, and how. It is all too easy when you hide behind masks, illusions, one another, fake names, stolen borrowed ips proxies MOB RULES sheep herd mentality fever rabid pitch drool school of blood thirsty swarming sharks master plan attack cool cold pre calculated organized btw it is HUGE and Growing all the time ignorant smart young older whatever tax bracket span underground guerilla warfare plan some in it for fun but not all still its a giant food chain a Lady Macbeth, if you will, all of them have blood stained hands in the end. We all do. What a shame. To think that so many would go along willingly w/ reputation and propperty ruining destruuctiion, tresspassing, breaking and entering, theft, surveillance, posting God knows what and who knows where, stealing info., infiltrating computers, phones, every intimate personal detail, plus harming the health of ppl, plus their pets, plus same for their family and some of their friends. Based on what? And no help from Police, bcoz they were in on it, too. Huh. Yep. So. And no&#8230;It ain&#8217;t just the &#8221; Scientologists&#8221; or is that Aesopian speak for something or somebody else? THEY, the so-called ANONYMOUS must have some over lord influential types&#8230;I mean, would there have been a Manson Family w/ out Charles? Psycho that he is and was? You know? They, the sheep, what might have started out as The Fight Club, now Club Mayhem, Loose Cannon, full of Mindless Meathead Mongrells on Moronic Missions&#8230;must have some fucktard leaders to give them a clue&#8230;jeez. Is there any intelligent life anywhere any intelligent lifeform in the universe&#8230;and if so&#8230;plz&#8230;just hurry and beam me up now!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Haggard</title>
		<link>http://danielhaggard.com/79/the-anonymous-war-on-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-3585</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Haggard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I agree with most of what you say Rev... certainly we see eye to eye on the issue of law... and also the issue of the right of a lawful institution to exist.

But there is also the right to criticize an organisation and even to destroy it - in the sense of trying to de-motivate further support for that institution.  Such a process can also be conducted legally... and if this is what Anonymous is doing, then I certainly support them.

I believe in reason, knowledge and a critical disposition.  I believe these things will help the world.  I believe that an institution that tells people that they are alien spirits is not helping them access the truth about the reality we find ourselves within.  And we need to do everything we can to discourage people from adopting such a destructive point of view.  But again - it has to be done legally, and with respect for those who might not agree with our points of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I agree with most of what you say Rev&#8230; certainly we see eye to eye on the issue of law&#8230; and also the issue of the right of a lawful institution to exist.</p>
<p>But there is also the right to criticize an organisation and even to destroy it &#8211; in the sense of trying to de-motivate further support for that institution.  Such a process can also be conducted legally&#8230; and if this is what Anonymous is doing, then I certainly support them.</p>
<p>I believe in reason, knowledge and a critical disposition.  I believe these things will help the world.  I believe that an institution that tells people that they are alien spirits is not helping them access the truth about the reality we find ourselves within.  And we need to do everything we can to discourage people from adopting such a destructive point of view.  But again &#8211; it has to be done legally, and with respect for those who might not agree with our points of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Evrard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean Evrard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous might be considered as inadequate, it&#039;s not important.  What is important is
   o   to fight the scientology by all legal means
   o   to sue them in all countries for fiscal evasion, for funds extorsion, for abuses of all kinds, for illegal representaion and use of &quot;medical&quot; treatment, for ...   the lsit is endless
   o   BOYCOTT all Tom Cruise movies
   o   stop distribution of all DVDs of Tom Cruise
   o   etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous might be considered as inadequate, it&#8217;s not important.  What is important is<br />
   o   to fight the scientology by all legal means<br />
   o   to sue them in all countries for fiscal evasion, for funds extorsion, for abuses of all kinds, for illegal representaion and use of &#8220;medical&#8221; treatment, for &#8230;   the lsit is endless<br />
   o   BOYCOTT all Tom Cruise movies<br />
   o   stop distribution of all DVDs of Tom Cruise<br />
   o   etc</p>
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		<title>By: Revelation 23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revelation 23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had heard of what happened with Lisa McPherson before.  Operation Freak Out is a new one to me, but I remember reading something about Operation Snow White some time ago.

Again, I have to wonder just how many members are aware of some of the stuff that has gone on, either something under the guise of being for the Church&#039;s sake (i.e., as an excuse) or actual directives from the higher-ups in the hierarchy.  Given the opportunity, chances are you&#039;ll find someone willing and able to take advantage of whatever situation they may be in.

Don&#039;t get me wrong.  I&#039;m not trying to defend the Church, but I do think that in some cases, personal motives and agendas shouldn&#039;t be disregarded.  There are many examples of a person in power (or one with enough connections) being able to do as they please with little or no consequences.  Unfortunately, the Church Of Scientology hasn&#039;t really done anything to distance itself from these things, regardless of whether they actually had anything to do with it or not.

The fact that more and more people talk about some of the goings on is proof that the COS isn&#039;t as tightly knit as they&#039;d like it to be.  Anonymous&#039; existance (not sure if that&#039;s the right term here, but I&#039;m sticking to it) is further proof that more and more &#039;outsiders&#039; are becoming aware of some of what&#039;s gone on.

Who knows, maybe this will open the doors for people to take a closer look at some of the other organizations out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had heard of what happened with Lisa McPherson before.  Operation Freak Out is a new one to me, but I remember reading something about Operation Snow White some time ago.</p>
<p>Again, I have to wonder just how many members are aware of some of the stuff that has gone on, either something under the guise of being for the Church&#8217;s sake (i.e., as an excuse) or actual directives from the higher-ups in the hierarchy.  Given the opportunity, chances are you&#8217;ll find someone willing and able to take advantage of whatever situation they may be in.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong.  I&#8217;m not trying to defend the Church, but I do think that in some cases, personal motives and agendas shouldn&#8217;t be disregarded.  There are many examples of a person in power (or one with enough connections) being able to do as they please with little or no consequences.  Unfortunately, the Church Of Scientology hasn&#8217;t really done anything to distance itself from these things, regardless of whether they actually had anything to do with it or not.</p>
<p>The fact that more and more people talk about some of the goings on is proof that the COS isn&#8217;t as tightly knit as they&#8217;d like it to be.  Anonymous&#8217; existance (not sure if that&#8217;s the right term here, but I&#8217;m sticking to it) is further proof that more and more &#8216;outsiders&#8217; are becoming aware of some of what&#8217;s gone on.</p>
<p>Who knows, maybe this will open the doors for people to take a closer look at some of the other organizations out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev:
To the Anonymous not simply jumping onto the bandwagon of Scientology hate without real understanding, the ultimate goal of this movement would be to spread knowledge far and wide about the practices of fear, deception, harassment, slander and brainwashing that Scientologists use as a matter of procedure to silence its critics and keep its followers ignorant of its criminal activities.  If Scientologists are as a result realising the true nature of what they are embroiled in; if in the future Average Joe on the street no longer thinks of Scientology as &#039;just another kooky religion&#039; but knows the pyramid-scam nature of the entire following -- well, I would say it was all worth it.

Anonymous commonly attempts to help those unaware of exactly how terrible Scientology&#039;s acts are by asking them to find out about
- Operation Snow White
- Operation Freak Out
- Lisa McPherson (on whose birthday the upcoming Feb 10 protests will be)
Here I ask that if you do not know about them, Google them or look them up on Wikipedia.  I promise you will see why Anonymous is so bloody worked up over it all.

Shameless plug:  enturbulation.org is a good starting site for those unfamiliar with the Church of Scientology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev:<br />
To the Anonymous not simply jumping onto the bandwagon of Scientology hate without real understanding, the ultimate goal of this movement would be to spread knowledge far and wide about the practices of fear, deception, harassment, slander and brainwashing that Scientologists use as a matter of procedure to silence its critics and keep its followers ignorant of its criminal activities.  If Scientologists are as a result realising the true nature of what they are embroiled in; if in the future Average Joe on the street no longer thinks of Scientology as &#8216;just another kooky religion&#8217; but knows the pyramid-scam nature of the entire following &#8212; well, I would say it was all worth it.</p>
<p>Anonymous commonly attempts to help those unaware of exactly how terrible Scientology&#8217;s acts are by asking them to find out about<br />
- Operation Snow White<br />
- Operation Freak Out<br />
- Lisa McPherson (on whose birthday the upcoming Feb 10 protests will be)<br />
Here I ask that if you do not know about them, Google them or look them up on Wikipedia.  I promise you will see why Anonymous is so bloody worked up over it all.</p>
<p>Shameless plug:  enturbulation.org is a good starting site for those unfamiliar with the Church of Scientology.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Daniel Haggard, yours, is by far the most interesting and insightful article on the subject. 

It is true that Anonymous has decided to come out of the shadows (while remaining anonymous) and adopt a peaceful and mostly legal strategy. However, when the push comes to shove, despite the freedom of speech, most cities in US have many limits on expressive conduct and protests.

For instance, in NYC there have not been a sucessful communcation with the authorities, despite several attempts. It is my fear, therefore, that the government will misunderstand and underestimate Anonymous by deciding to suppress the unauthorized protests (undoubtedly with involvement of rich $cientologists). This would be a fatal mistake, as it will drive Anonymous back into shadows and the illegal tactics that it involves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Daniel Haggard, yours, is by far the most interesting and insightful article on the subject. </p>
<p>It is true that Anonymous has decided to come out of the shadows (while remaining anonymous) and adopt a peaceful and mostly legal strategy. However, when the push comes to shove, despite the freedom of speech, most cities in US have many limits on expressive conduct and protests.</p>
<p>For instance, in NYC there have not been a sucessful communcation with the authorities, despite several attempts. It is my fear, therefore, that the government will misunderstand and underestimate Anonymous by deciding to suppress the unauthorized protests (undoubtedly with involvement of rich $cientologists). This would be a fatal mistake, as it will drive Anonymous back into shadows and the illegal tactics that it involves.</p>
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		<title>By: Revelation 23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revelation 23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve thought about what to say here, and I&#039;m going to try to tread lightly.

Me, I don&#039;t care for Scientology.  Sure, I don&#039;t have much exposure to it and a lot of the exposure is the stuff people like to dissect, twist around and make fun of.  I do have to wonder just how much its members really know about the COS, as there&#039;s a hierarchy to it all and only a few know all that the Scientology has to offer (the same can be said of other organizations).  I will say this, not &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; I&#039;ve read about in Scientology is utter b-grade science fiction garbage.  There&#039;s more to what they &#039;teach&#039;, but I&#039;m not going to get into that here.  From my understanding, that&#039;s not really the main issue anyway.

Also, I don&#039;t know how different the COS is now compared to what it used to be or how much difference there is between the mainstream version or the Free Zone.  Perhaps it&#039;s a matter of the COS having allowed itself to become something it never wanted to become and not having enough people around to say so.  Or those that do are shunned, resorting to creating their own faction (I assume Free Zone would be something similar to this).  It&#039;s not like that&#039;s ever happened before...

Does the Church Of Scientology have a right to be around?  I would say yes, just as with any other group or organization, regardless of whether its focus is on religion, politics, philosophy or any number of subjects.  It doesn&#039;t really matter who you are or the name you and/or the group uses.  If you&#039;re not hurting anyone, spreading hatred, breaking the law or encouraging others to do so, you&#039;re welcome to gather.  If you want to gather (literally or figuratively), fine.  Do so.  As long as you don&#039;t shove your agenda on others who don&#039;t want a part in what you&#039;re saying or selling (as the case may be) and go about your business in a peaceful and respectable manner, there&#039;s not a problem.  If you&#039;re not hurting anyone, if you&#039;re not breaking the law, go ahead and do your thing.  We live in a society where different viewpoints are tolerated and even encouraged; although I hesitate to say it&#039;s freedom of speech or freedom of expression.  I think they&#039;re both overused crutches that have lost some of their meaning.  Simply put, we won&#039;t always agree, and that&#039;s okay.

The problem is when a group (any group) turns on others and is able to get away with stuff that we would otherwise take exception to and do something about it.  All kinds of &quot;injustices&quot; are performed every day, in every culture and every country and there&#039;s a reason why things are allowed to happen, even if it&#039;s not immediately apparent.  You &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; do something about it if you want to, but you don&#039;t neccessarily need to lower yourself to get something done or bring it to peoples&#039; attention.  I&#039;d like to think we are better than that.  We&#039;ve come too far in the thousands of years since our civiliation began and expanded to throw it all away.  And we shouldn&#039;t let the &quot;good guys&quot; get away with anything they want to either.

You don&#039;t need to break laws to get something done, not every &quot;revolution&quot; is started by breaking laws.  There are other avenues.  I don&#039;t know, maybe Anonymous has exhausted everything else and making attacks (whether direct or indirect) against them is the next step?  Sometimes that route has to be taken, but it shouldn&#039;t be the first step taken.  I would say I&#039;m like Daniel here - laws &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; work and &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; work, if you &lt;i&gt;let&lt;/i&gt; them.  It might not be the fastest route or the most glamourous route, but I&#039;m optimistic in that it&#039;s a far better option than hacking, guerilla tactics, cyber terrorism, vandalism, fraud, defamation, slander or any of the other tactics some groups may use.  No, I&#039;m not saying these are the tools of Anonymous (though they did go after the COS website or someone did on their behalf).  And hopefully they won&#039;t become the tools that Anonymous uses.

So, does Anonymous have a right to exist?  Again, I&#039;d say yes.  But in the end, what is their real goal, if they have one?  Trigger some kind of change? Bring an end to the Church Of Scientology?  Replace it?  There&#039;s nothing wrong with criticizing someone and pointing out their faults, but it can be taken too far.  Sometimes the reaction can be worse than the cause, sometimes the cure is worse than the disease, sometimes the punishment is worse than the crime.   You get the idea.  Be careful this doesn&#039;t happen.

Whatever you&#039;re planning to do on the 10th (if anything), just make sure it&#039;s nothing stupid.  Don&#039;t forget, the members of the Church Of Scientology are people too and you can&#039;t undo certain things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought about what to say here, and I&#8217;m going to try to tread lightly.</p>
<p>Me, I don&#8217;t care for Scientology.  Sure, I don&#8217;t have much exposure to it and a lot of the exposure is the stuff people like to dissect, twist around and make fun of.  I do have to wonder just how much its members really know about the COS, as there&#8217;s a hierarchy to it all and only a few know all that the Scientology has to offer (the same can be said of other organizations).  I will say this, not <i>everything</i> I&#8217;ve read about in Scientology is utter b-grade science fiction garbage.  There&#8217;s more to what they &#8216;teach&#8217;, but I&#8217;m not going to get into that here.  From my understanding, that&#8217;s not really the main issue anyway.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t know how different the COS is now compared to what it used to be or how much difference there is between the mainstream version or the Free Zone.  Perhaps it&#8217;s a matter of the COS having allowed itself to become something it never wanted to become and not having enough people around to say so.  Or those that do are shunned, resorting to creating their own faction (I assume Free Zone would be something similar to this).  It&#8217;s not like that&#8217;s ever happened before&#8230;</p>
<p>Does the Church Of Scientology have a right to be around?  I would say yes, just as with any other group or organization, regardless of whether its focus is on religion, politics, philosophy or any number of subjects.  It doesn&#8217;t really matter who you are or the name you and/or the group uses.  If you&#8217;re not hurting anyone, spreading hatred, breaking the law or encouraging others to do so, you&#8217;re welcome to gather.  If you want to gather (literally or figuratively), fine.  Do so.  As long as you don&#8217;t shove your agenda on others who don&#8217;t want a part in what you&#8217;re saying or selling (as the case may be) and go about your business in a peaceful and respectable manner, there&#8217;s not a problem.  If you&#8217;re not hurting anyone, if you&#8217;re not breaking the law, go ahead and do your thing.  We live in a society where different viewpoints are tolerated and even encouraged; although I hesitate to say it&#8217;s freedom of speech or freedom of expression.  I think they&#8217;re both overused crutches that have lost some of their meaning.  Simply put, we won&#8217;t always agree, and that&#8217;s okay.</p>
<p>The problem is when a group (any group) turns on others and is able to get away with stuff that we would otherwise take exception to and do something about it.  All kinds of &#8220;injustices&#8221; are performed every day, in every culture and every country and there&#8217;s a reason why things are allowed to happen, even if it&#8217;s not immediately apparent.  You <i>can</i> do something about it if you want to, but you don&#8217;t neccessarily need to lower yourself to get something done or bring it to peoples&#8217; attention.  I&#8217;d like to think we are better than that.  We&#8217;ve come too far in the thousands of years since our civiliation began and expanded to throw it all away.  And we shouldn&#8217;t let the &#8220;good guys&#8221; get away with anything they want to either.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to break laws to get something done, not every &#8220;revolution&#8221; is started by breaking laws.  There are other avenues.  I don&#8217;t know, maybe Anonymous has exhausted everything else and making attacks (whether direct or indirect) against them is the next step?  Sometimes that route has to be taken, but it shouldn&#8217;t be the first step taken.  I would say I&#8217;m like Daniel here &#8211; laws <i>can</i> work and <i>do</i> work, if you <i>let</i> them.  It might not be the fastest route or the most glamourous route, but I&#8217;m optimistic in that it&#8217;s a far better option than hacking, guerilla tactics, cyber terrorism, vandalism, fraud, defamation, slander or any of the other tactics some groups may use.  No, I&#8217;m not saying these are the tools of Anonymous (though they did go after the COS website or someone did on their behalf).  And hopefully they won&#8217;t become the tools that Anonymous uses.</p>
<p>So, does Anonymous have a right to exist?  Again, I&#8217;d say yes.  But in the end, what is their real goal, if they have one?  Trigger some kind of change? Bring an end to the Church Of Scientology?  Replace it?  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with criticizing someone and pointing out their faults, but it can be taken too far.  Sometimes the reaction can be worse than the cause, sometimes the cure is worse than the disease, sometimes the punishment is worse than the crime.   You get the idea.  Be careful this doesn&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>Whatever you&#8217;re planning to do on the 10th (if anything), just make sure it&#8217;s nothing stupid.  Don&#8217;t forget, the members of the Church Of Scientology are people too and you can&#8217;t undo certain things.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Haggard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Haggard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s quite an interesting and disturbing read.  It&#039;s actually hard to blame you guys for using the dark side of the force in this fight given that.

I think though it&#039;s an interesting question though as to what distinguishes Scientology from an actual religion.  I guess the answer is that we don&#039;t believe their cock n bull story about aliens.  But to what extent could that criticism be extended to other religions?  The evangelicals have often been caught in various corruption scandals and the like...

Just throwing up the question...  I don&#039;t know enough about the individual institutions to be able to categorise them accurately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s quite an interesting and disturbing read.  It&#8217;s actually hard to blame you guys for using the dark side of the force in this fight given that.</p>
<p>I think though it&#8217;s an interesting question though as to what distinguishes Scientology from an actual religion.  I guess the answer is that we don&#8217;t believe their cock n bull story about aliens.  But to what extent could that criticism be extended to other religions?  The evangelicals have often been caught in various corruption scandals and the like&#8230;</p>
<p>Just throwing up the question&#8230;  I don&#8217;t know enough about the individual institutions to be able to categorise them accurately.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James:
I submit to you this link to TIME magazine&#039;s 1991 cover story, from which you may be surprised to learn, among other facts, that Scientology is not a religion -- Scientologists have no deity.  Hubbard simply packaged his little creation as a religion in order to reap its benefits, such as tax exemption.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,972865,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James:<br />
I submit to you this link to TIME magazine&#8217;s 1991 cover story, from which you may be surprised to learn, among other facts, that Scientology is not a religion &#8212; Scientologists have no deity.  Hubbard simply packaged his little creation as a religion in order to reap its benefits, such as tax exemption.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,972865,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,972865,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Flaxman</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Flaxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 05:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! An intriguing discussion to say the least! I&#039;ve always felt religious groups get away with far too much - their beliefs and practices aren&#039;t subjected to the same level of criticism as those of secular institutions. I think Anonymous is a grassroots attempt to address this imbalance. While their methods are unorthodox, I&#039;m no Scientology fan, so I&#039;m eager to see where this leads. 

If Anonymous succeeds with its stated aim of destroying Hubbard&#039;s cult, where is it going to go next? During its brief existence, Scientology has suffered more negative publicity than most religions, though many employ comparable methods and may have more sinister agendas. Would the Anonymous crowd be so inclined to take on the Exclusive Brethren, Nation of Islam or Children of God? I guess I&#039;ll have to wait and see...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! An intriguing discussion to say the least! I&#8217;ve always felt religious groups get away with far too much &#8211; their beliefs and practices aren&#8217;t subjected to the same level of criticism as those of secular institutions. I think Anonymous is a grassroots attempt to address this imbalance. While their methods are unorthodox, I&#8217;m no Scientology fan, so I&#8217;m eager to see where this leads. </p>
<p>If Anonymous succeeds with its stated aim of destroying Hubbard&#8217;s cult, where is it going to go next? During its brief existence, Scientology has suffered more negative publicity than most religions, though many employ comparable methods and may have more sinister agendas. Would the Anonymous crowd be so inclined to take on the Exclusive Brethren, Nation of Islam or Children of God? I guess I&#8217;ll have to wait and see&#8230;</p>
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